I must be really slow because I can;t understnad these poems. Everyone else has some hint as to what he's saying but i really can't get it. can anyone help?
I agree completely. I don't get poetry at all. You're not slow, because if you are, I am and I don't really want to believe I am.
I can explain what I got out of the poem, but apparently it's not what everyone else got out of it, so we'll see.
For A Forbidden Mourning, I read it thinking that it was about death and how people must go. But that he and his lover will be unaffected because they love eachother. So I guess I understand the spiritual love thing now. He's talking about how they are so connected by love and their souls are one that they can't be parted. But maybe I'm making up the whole thing about the parting being death. It's just that in the first few lines it talks about how people pass away and some people understand that they must go, but others say no and they aren't accepting of it.
Okay and I don't think I can talk about the second poem without showing how much I really don't understand it.
Earlier Laz had mentioned that cavallier poets like John Donne mocked Elizabethan poetry by using overly exagerrated metaphors. But as I was reading, I was thinking about it and if they were to overexaggerate in their poems how can they actually express mockery. Because aren't they trying to get their actual point across and not make it seem like some sappy love poem like the Elizabethan poets did, because their point is that poems shouldn't be like that?
Megan and Andrea you guys aren't slow, these things are tough to get...Its the type of thing you got to read over and over until you fully understand what is being said then from there you go into analyzing the poem to figure out the meaning behind it all. POEM 1- The title being FORBIDDING MOURNING is exactly what the speaker is talking about throughout the poem you just have to figure it out. The speaker is saying that even though he's leaving and they will be apart they cannot become sad. They will always be together spiritually even if physcially they aren't with eachother..
I agree with Vinny. You guys are not slow in the least bit. These poems are very difficult to understand at some points. The Forbidden Mourning one was a little easier to work through because it had a lot of hidden messages that could be decoded by ones self, but The Cannonization is just downright dreadful. Don't feel like you are the only ones that don't understand this stuff, because frankly I don't either. Stay strong!
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I agree completely. I don't get poetry at all. You're not slow, because if you are, I am and I don't really want to believe I am.
I can explain what I got out of the poem, but apparently it's not what everyone else got out of it, so we'll see.
For A Forbidden Mourning, I read it thinking that it was about death and how people must go. But that he and his lover will be unaffected because they love eachother. So I guess I understand the spiritual love thing now. He's talking about how they are so connected by love and their souls are one that they can't be parted. But maybe I'm making up the whole thing about the parting being death. It's just that in the first few lines it talks about how people pass away and some people understand that they must go, but others say no and they aren't accepting of it.
Okay and I don't think I can talk about the second poem without showing how much I really don't understand it.
Earlier Laz had mentioned that cavallier poets like John Donne mocked Elizabethan poetry by using overly exagerrated metaphors. But as I was reading, I was thinking about it and if they were to overexaggerate in their poems how can they actually express mockery. Because aren't they trying to get their actual point across and not make it seem like some sappy love poem like the Elizabethan poets did, because their point is that poems shouldn't be like that?
Megan and Andrea you guys aren't slow, these things are tough to get...Its the type of thing you got to read over and over until you fully understand what is being said then from there you go into analyzing the poem to figure out the meaning behind it all.
POEM 1- The title being FORBIDDING MOURNING is exactly what the speaker is talking about throughout the poem you just have to figure it out. The speaker is saying that even though he's leaving and they will be apart they cannot become sad. They will always be together spiritually even if physcially they aren't with eachother..
JUst my thoughts
thanks guys!
I agree with Vinny. You guys are not slow in the least bit. These poems are very difficult to understand at some points. The Forbidden Mourning one was a little easier to work through because it had a lot of hidden messages that could be decoded by ones self, but The Cannonization is just downright dreadful. Don't feel like you are the only ones that don't understand this stuff, because frankly I don't either. Stay strong!
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