I believe that in this poem, the writer is trying to seduce a woman and trying to convince her to have sex with him. While reading the poem I do see a similarity to some of Catullu's poems, especially to the ones he wrote to Lesbia (I read them in latin), and I also picked up on the reference to the latin saying "Carpe Diem". The writer believes that they shouldn't waste time and instead "Seize the Day" and make the most of it. He believes that there is no crime in trying to live his life to the fullest and so she shouldn't feel guilty nor shy to have sex with him.
Giuseppina ScottoDiCarlo
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Yes I also picked up on the idea of "seizing the day", remembering back the poem has the exact same idea as "The Flea" written by Donne. Happy to say that this particular Jonson poem was very straight forward and very easy to understand. The ending could be the hardest part to get, but I believe its the best part of the poem because the speaker states if it is revealed they'd had sex after they did it then who cares atleast they got what they wanted. The only thing left is punishment, but they still got in what they really wanted to do.
I thought the peom was easy to understand because like what Paul sain in class "there weren't any big words." I finally realized that this peom is related to "The Flea." In both the peoms the guy is trying to use some sort of concept in oder to have sex, but the guy gets played in both the peoms.
i wonder if as this was being performed on stage if the audience tghought it were a joke or if they could relate! also did jonson get this idea from Donne's "The Flea". "The flea" is more a religious poem though and donne goes into more detail of how doing the deed won't do anyone any harm.
I also thought this poem was pretty simple to understand but the similarity to the flea and the familiar form of writing with metaphors and other devices made it even easier. I actually think I prefer the flea, because it just seems more well put together than this particular one.
Here are my notes on this poem... The first two lines of this poem also contain a slant rhyme like the first two lines of Clerimont's Song do. Time has given us the time to do what we want to do. The sun rising the next day is not guranteed. Maybe the earth will end or the sun will blow up or God will call judgement day. So it may not rise but right now we have the light so let's take advantage of it. Line 15 can be read as that it is not sin to have sex. If people find out you get introuble. But since you've already done the deed that's all that will happen to you. You've gotten what you've want and that's all that matters. The Cavalier traidition is to sieze the day. This is best expressed through sex. Some may say that it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. This relates mostly to sex.
This poem doesn't seem to be too difficult to understand. Jonson is writing about a man that is trying to get a woman to have sex with him. The man gives her various reasons as to why she should and he continues to try to convince her. At the end the man says that even if someone catches them having an affair, they've already had their pleasure so it won't matter.
It is interesting that Jonson and Milton both follow the idea of carpe diem just like Donne in "The Flea." After reading "The Flea" I understood the other two poems because they had the same concept and are similar in idea. It helped a lot.
- ERICA SPAIN
The man is this poem has some pretty good points on why the women should have sex with him. He says that they will not live forever so might as well have sex now while thier young. Also he talks about light and darkness and how one day the sun may not rise so the earth will be stuck in darkness. He talks about how fame and rumor are just toys which means rumors are just rumors and mean nothing so they should just have sex. At the end of the poem he is asking if sex is real as bad as people say but realizes everyone does it and accounts for that.
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